I just lost
another Liberal "friend" from Facebook.
This is the
third Facebook friend who has unfriended me after they have brought
up a political subject and I responded to it. Bill Buckley said
something which might be the answer as to why that's happening. He
said, Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views,
but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other
views. I guess the three women, they were all women, posted
their political beliefs expecting everybody will, of course, agree
with them, and when that small voice from the back of the room
disagrees, they silence it in the only way they know how-- DELETE.
I think the
best way to demonstrate what I mean is to reprint the last Facebook
communications that got me fired.
The Liberal
lady ( LL) posted a Daily Kos message. (This is also something I
have noticed, when these folks post something it is usually
something from a Progressive web page. Rarely, if ever, is it their
own words. I wonder why that is?) This particular blurb was
complaining about Alice Walton being worth 21 billion and Walmart
employees having to rely on the taxpayers to kick in for her
employees' food stamps because of the alleged low wages paid by
Walmart. Shouldn't Alice spread some of her money around to the
employees?
Here is the
Facebook postings. ( LL Liberal lady, CM Conservative man--that's
me)
(CM)
What
is the most anybody should earn?
(LL)
Enough.
Enough to go around. Everyone should have enough. $21 billion is more
than enough. And who decides how much is enough? If we were all
golden rule humans, we'd know the answer to that.
(CM) And
who decides how much is "enough?
"$21 billion is more than enough." say you, LL
"I do think at a certain point you've made enough." President Obama
Apparently at least two people have a definite idea about what's "enough." Studies have shown that a person thinks another person is "rich" if they have twice their net worth. "Enough" is very relative.
I doubt Alice Walton put her $21 billion in CDs and is sitting around eating Bon Bons watching it grow. Through charitable organizations and job creation, the Walton family has done more for the good of other folks than 99% of the world's population. The best way to help a poor person is to not be one of them.
Also, where do we get the idea that the government "asks" things of the rich. The government "makes" the productive of society give up their money and the government will put it where the government thinks it should go. How's that working?
"$21 billion is more than enough." say you, LL
"I do think at a certain point you've made enough." President Obama
Apparently at least two people have a definite idea about what's "enough." Studies have shown that a person thinks another person is "rich" if they have twice their net worth. "Enough" is very relative.
I doubt Alice Walton put her $21 billion in CDs and is sitting around eating Bon Bons watching it grow. Through charitable organizations and job creation, the Walton family has done more for the good of other folks than 99% of the world's population. The best way to help a poor person is to not be one of them.
Also, where do we get the idea that the government "asks" things of the rich. The government "makes" the productive of society give up their money and the government will put it where the government thinks it should go. How's that working?
LL)
If
the Waltons were so charitable, they'd pay their employees a living
wage with a few benefits thrown in so that their employees wouldn't
have to survive on food stamps. Give me a break. Not to mention how
many small businesses they have put out of business. and in answer to
your second remark, the government is controlled by the rich. Don't
be so naive to think that the govt. makes itself give up its money.
(CM)
Democrat's
"War on Walmart" really confuses me. I guess it's because
the founders make a lot of money and it's a Liberal
leaning to find suspect anybody making more money than they do. Let's
take a look at the people the Democrats say they are FOR, i.e.
the little folks, those struggling to make a buck in the evil world
run by productive people.
Walmart has 2.2 million people who CHOOSE to work for it. People who choose to work for those substandard wages you say Walmart pays. Walmart has 100,000,000 customers per week CHOOSING to shop there (42% of Walmart customers earn less than $40,000 per year. These are the very folks the Left purports to champion!) You say Walmart has "put out of business" many Mom and Pops. Not true. The shoppers making their choice as to price, quality and location put the Mom and Pops out of business. Walmart's employees and shoppers are the Left's demographics. You would have it that your folks would have to pay more for everyday items just so the Walton family would not make as much money?
I know this personal responsibility and free market stuff is anti-left. but anyone who doesn’t like Walmart's business plan can simply not shop there, and they will go away, and so will the jobs and buying power of the much sought after Democratic voting block
Walmart has 2.2 million people who CHOOSE to work for it. People who choose to work for those substandard wages you say Walmart pays. Walmart has 100,000,000 customers per week CHOOSING to shop there (42% of Walmart customers earn less than $40,000 per year. These are the very folks the Left purports to champion!) You say Walmart has "put out of business" many Mom and Pops. Not true. The shoppers making their choice as to price, quality and location put the Mom and Pops out of business. Walmart's employees and shoppers are the Left's demographics. You would have it that your folks would have to pay more for everyday items just so the Walton family would not make as much money?
I know this personal responsibility and free market stuff is anti-left. but anyone who doesn’t like Walmart's business plan can simply not shop there, and they will go away, and so will the jobs and buying power of the much sought after Democratic voting block
(LL)
It's
too bad you make judgments and decisions based on where the "left
Liberals" stand on any subject, rather than the facts of the
matter, and where you get your facts from. I realize that most
republicans consult a script propagated by the conservative right,
that has little or nothing to do with facts or reality, only their
own agenda. Also I don't give a damn who makes how much since nearly
everyone makes a lot more than I do. Most intelligent people resent
the very mega rich because most of them have exploited others to get
there. I do not think it's ok for the corporate elite to make
billions while they bitch and moan and haggle over the minimum wage.
Perhaps you are a Walmart shareholder- a bit touchy and defensive of
Walmart aren'tcha? By the way what is your source for all your
"info"?
(CM)
Source--just
Google it.
"I realize that most republicans consult a script propagated by the conservative right,"
And you, on the other hand, do not get your script from the Liberal left?
" Most intelligent people resent the very mega rich because most of them have exploited others to get there."
and just where did you get that "fact?" A script from the Liberal left?
Minimum wage---this stems from a basic difference of Left and Right as to the purpose of a business. As a conservative I believe a business is in business to make a profit through selling a product or a service people are willing to pay for. They will keep their costs down in order to sell their product or service. Salaries are generally the most significant expense, so businesses will do what they can to keep that expense down by paying employees what they are worth to the business, or what they may have to pay them to get and keep good employees.
Liberals, on the other hand, seem to believe a business is in business to provide their workers the wage the workers want rather than a wage commensurate with their contribution to the business bottom line. In other word a business is in business for the employees' well being. If you choose to hire a couple of people to help you in your business, and you felt you could afford to pay them $8.00 per hour for the skill level work they would do. They say that won't do, they need $20.00 per hour to live the life they want to live. What would you do? Now you may see why so many young unskilled people are unemployed today.
(I am not a share owner, but there are 3.5 billion shares of outstanding stock (Google) providing potential retirement funds for the portion of society the Liberals profess to care so much about.)
"I realize that most republicans consult a script propagated by the conservative right,"
And you, on the other hand, do not get your script from the Liberal left?
" Most intelligent people resent the very mega rich because most of them have exploited others to get there."
and just where did you get that "fact?" A script from the Liberal left?
Minimum wage---this stems from a basic difference of Left and Right as to the purpose of a business. As a conservative I believe a business is in business to make a profit through selling a product or a service people are willing to pay for. They will keep their costs down in order to sell their product or service. Salaries are generally the most significant expense, so businesses will do what they can to keep that expense down by paying employees what they are worth to the business, or what they may have to pay them to get and keep good employees.
Liberals, on the other hand, seem to believe a business is in business to provide their workers the wage the workers want rather than a wage commensurate with their contribution to the business bottom line. In other word a business is in business for the employees' well being. If you choose to hire a couple of people to help you in your business, and you felt you could afford to pay them $8.00 per hour for the skill level work they would do. They say that won't do, they need $20.00 per hour to live the life they want to live. What would you do? Now you may see why so many young unskilled people are unemployed today.
(I am not a share owner, but there are 3.5 billion shares of outstanding stock (Google) providing potential retirement funds for the portion of society the Liberals profess to care so much about.)
(LL)
I
don't follow a script. I make my own decisions and get my info from
reliable sources of real news that is backed up and provable. Not
opinion or misinformation like fox news. It's a waste of my time and
energy to argue with you. Your info is so incorrect and predictable,
its not worth the effort to try to correct you. Poof - you've been
erased.
So,
that leaves poor old CM with one less friend. Can you see why it is
so difficult to get bipartisanship? Facts are facts, but it's how we
interpret those facts that keep us apart. As I mentioned in previous
Blogs, Liberalism is more emotional than rational. Conservationism is
more rational than emotional. Should we feel sorry that those 22
million Walmart employees don't make more money, or do we feel
pleased for them to have that good a job in these hard economic
times?
It's
a shame; for two reasons, first I will never get to know what those
"reliable
sources of real news that is backed up and provable" are so
that maybe my information will not be so "incorrect and
predictable" in the future. Secondly, and most importantly, it
doesn't help me in my quest to understand the
Liberal view. I may not agree, but I would like to understand, but it
seems every time I get going, poof--I get erased!
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